In this discussion, Jeremy Au, Prahlad Jaya, Emile Dumont and Edric Poon shared their experiences and challenges in podcasting, particularly on equipment and technical issues. They discussed the importance of investing in quality gear and shared tips on overcoming hurdles like hardware failures during recording sessions. They also shared their editing practices and the need to balance perfectionism with content creation. They emphasized the value of practicality and learning from past mistakes to improve podcasting endeavors.
Check out the episode here and the transcript below.
[00:00:00] Edric Poon:
We're rolling. We are rolling people. We are rolling places. Okay. That shows our age group, obviously. Funny. Alright. Welcome to the, well, kind of a trial of the podcast. There's Playground Singapore podcast in some ways or another. Here we are at City Music. We're doing this just for fun now, by the way. So this is not going out.
And I still don't know why I'm still doing this kind of morning radio. DJ voice. Hey. And all that nonsense stuff anyway, so, yeah just for fun, right? So I'm Edrick and let's go around the table and introduce ourselves and get to know each other while we're recording each other. It's kind of voyeuristic though.
[00:00:41] Prahlad Jaya:
Yeah, yeah, I mean, I'm a voyeur. I'm quite a narcissist myself. Oh let's, oh my God.
[00:00:48] Edric Poon:
You're taking a picture while we're Phil. What? Let's do it. We're trying to do a podcast, dude. See now there's this awkward silence because you have to like, take a selfie, right? You can't be talking while you're taking a selfie.
[00:00:59] Prahlad Jaya:
Shit. Yeah. What was your question? Yeah. Who are you and what do you do? I'm Jaya. I have a startup community in Singapore. Being active in the space for about a year. As in within the community, because during Covid nothing happened pretty much right? In terms of physical events. Prior to that, I was a founder myself, had a failed startup.
For the past one year, I've been doing startup events for the past three months, started my own community. We're at 300 plus members roughly on WhatsApp, email and all of that. It's primarily founders, early stage founders, and aspiring founders. We do events almost every week, but at least once a month on like topic specific items, but also more casual meetups for founders to come together and chill.
Talk about challenges and Yeah we're working on we're working on how do you build products on top of this community. To bring people together and achieve outcomes because I don't wanna be the events guy. I don't wanna handle like f and b, that's not my thing. Right. So, I'm thinking about how do you scale this and address founders' issues at scale.
[00:01:51] Edric Poon:
Nice. All right. So, that seems to be like that 32nd elevator pitch. Are you've been practicing and
[00:01:57] Prahlad Jaya:
No. Zero. This is the first time I'm doing it in 30 seconds.
[00:01:59] Edric Poon: But one thing, one thing that you missed out, you didn't tell us the name of your community curate. Ah, yes. It's spelled Karate with a U.
[00:02:07] Prahlad Jaya:
Oh yeah. Kurate's become the name.
[00:02:08] Edric Poon: Alright. And you? I'm Jeremy. Hey man, how are you? Is this a recording or we're just doing it for fun? Hello? The godfather in the room. Yeah, you the man. Okay let's, hello?
[00:02:17] Jeremy Au:
Just, I was gonna get food. I'll see you again.
[00:02:19] Emile Dumont:
Again.
[00:02:21] Edric Poon:
How do you know this guy?
[00:02:22] Jeremy Au:
Isn't it twelve's, the one you think?
[00:02:25] Prahlad Jaya:
What do I, I thought the food is the reward.
[00:02:28] Edric Poon:
Well, you could if you want to. You could if you want to. Oh, no, we need one, one of those things. Oh, you need a golden, yeah, I need a head. You need a goal head. I need to get some head. Anybody got the thing? Okay. Nevermind. Jeremy, we'll take over. Hold on Po Father. Here you go. Hi. Welcome, Jeremy. What's up? Everyone knows you.
[00:02:43] Jeremy Au:
But I don't know myself.
[00:02:50] Prahlad Jaya:
Regional Podfather. Regional. Who's the actual guy? I forgot his name. You know that American guy.
[00:02:56] Jeremy Au:
Do you know about Bernard?
[00:02:59] Prahlad Jaya:
No, I don't know him.
[00:03:01] Jeremy Au:
You don't know him? No. That's what I looked at when I was
[00:03:04] Prahlad Jaya:
No, there's this guy who basically actually invented the podcast format back in the day, and he's called the PO father.
He's been on JRE.
[00:03:11] Jeremy Au:
Oh, you're talking about in the US. You're talking about this. I have no idea who this person is.
[00:03:15] Edric Poon:
Yeah. I forget. I think I know who you're talking about. He has his own show. I'll let you guys know in a bit.
[00:03:24] Jeremy Au:
You know what I realized, you know, having this conversation is we can look, so we can sound so much better. Yeah. I'm like, I wanna hear this version of my voice all the time to myself.
[00:03:36] Prahlad Jaya:
But you know what Jeremy does very well. He doesn't have fancy equipment on both the guest side and his side, or maybe his side.
He does, but. I think you've figured out a way for the guest side to like, eliminate all, you know, source of noise and you know, it's, I don't know what your SS O P is, but it's working. It's, yeah, like just with AirPods on the other end it's up there, the quality.
[00:03:55] Jeremy Au:
It's like 10, 50 minutes of this prep work just to make sure that, you know, I'll just reschedule them.
[00:04:00] Prahlad Jaya:
Yeah, I've heard about those.
[00:04:01] Jeremy Au: Yeah. Yeah, so I think there's someone who had to reschedule a couple times because. You know, it turns out the kid was there then turns out the second time that his kid wasn't asleep and turns out somebody, and I think it was scheduled like three times, it's okay. But you know, you become very efficient.
He's just like, look, let's not complain about this. Let's not worry about this. Don't worry, don't feel guilty about the kid. It happens. There's this, call it a wash after 10 minutes, right? And then you just get. Well, it's not as if you get 50 minutes back 'cause you had to record it eventually, but at least straight over.
You're just like, okay. You know, instead of like binging bonging around for another like 30 minutes, rescheduling is a hassle.
[00:04:35] Prahlad Jaya:
Right? Like, 'cause you lose the one, two hours you set aside and, right. Yeah.
[00:04:42] Jeremy Au:
I mean, if you're recording from home, it's so bad. Do you have,
[00:04:45] Edric Poon:
Do you ever have to do retakes?
[00:04:48] Jeremy Au: Retakes?
I mean, if you're recording from home, it's so bad. Do you have,
[00:04:49] Edric Poon:
Yeah, retakes. I think they've only had ever one guest request to do a retake entirely. So for her, she just preferred to, she felt like we didn't have a vibe, and so she wanted to do it all over again. Totally get what you mean? I did one remotely. Yeah. Just to and basically, right, because that person just couldn't do it.
On site. Right. The person just couldn't vibe what you mentioned. Yeah. Couldn't vibe. Yeah. Yeah. So in the end he took my questions. Yeah. He just recorded himself Yeah. And sent me the video and said, piece it together. Yeah. I'm like, okay. So this is what you think of a podcast. All right.
Cool. Yeah. Cool. All right. Just for you. I'll do it. Yeah. It took me more time Yeah. To edit the bloody thing than it did to actually record and get a decent conversation out, the whole thing. Yeah.
[00:05:31] Jeremy Au:
I totally get it. I think my situation was easier because we just, what? We just, we took a timeout, we reflected on it.
She listened to a passport of mine. I listened to Passport of first, kind of understood a little bit more about what we wanted to get, and then we reconvene later that day and we did record it a second take. Right. And it was okay. It was much better. Second time it was, you know, straightforward conversation.
I mean, I was exhausted actually at the end of the day because I had a couple episodes. I think it was just nice to just, you know, push through and do it. And from a consumption perspective, it was totally fine. I actually enjoyed the conversation the moment, but it's just that at the end of the whole thing, you know, you know, you're like exhausted and I just want to like read a book or take a nap rather than talk to anybody else.
[00:06:11] Edric Poon:
I'm sure that you've had one of those like long drawn conversations, right? And then you go, oh my God, can this person stop? Talking for a moment because they're belaboring the point they're going over and over again and what's your way of kind of cutting in? Okay. But there are two things, right? One of them is on site whereby you can just kind of go yeah.
All right. And just cut them off and sell 'em. Shut up. The next one is when you're doing remotely, you have no control. And that just causes the whole thing to just kind of screw up. What's your way of cutting in?
[00:06:40] Emile Dumont:
I normally use my eyes to talk. Wow, I love that. I wanna see your eyes. Eyes. Now I'm looking at you. So you got wait, but no hand signals. Like is this, do you do audio only or you do video and audio? Audio only. Audio. Audio only. That's, it's not caught. I'm just saying like, if I was like doing, but if it's on video, then probably it is.
Like, I'll probably be like, yeah, I'll slow down a little bit. I'm like, yeah, I am. Understand what it's trying to say and like, okay, you get your point. I'm just imagining it, it's like you're dragging this on already, like Yeah, I'm a bit. Yeah.
[00:07:13] Edric Poon:
Slow down. That's crazy. That's crazy. Like the fact that you actually have to keep doing that.
And what about you Jaya?
[00:07:19] Prahlad Jaya:
I mean, I haven't done that many episodes, but the ones that I have I, I know the people quite well either because they have a lot of content online already, or I know them personally and I know they have enough to share. So I've not experienced, you know, belaboring the point on a podcast.
But I have experienced it at events quite a bit. And over there, typically what happens is as a moderator, when you ask a question, you have two or three guests. The mic just goes from one guest to another. But it's not that every question is meant to be answered by three people, right? So I think. I just learned over time that as a moderator, like the audience is depending on you to take control of that conversation.
And I just set expectations, you know, upfront that hey, you know, I have very specific questions for all of you. Some are intended for all, but you know, some are more specific. So I kinda make sure the mic comes back to me so that I could you know, have control of that conversation. So,
[00:08:06] Edric Poon:
Live events are also tough, right in that sense because like what you say, if the mic goes out, And if it doesn't come back, you're like, yo, give it back.
Anyway. We'll get to that in a little bit. I think Jeremy hasn't shared his point on how he tells people to shut up.
[00:08:19] Jeremy Au:
Oh. I mean, I was just waiting y'all to share. I wasn't going to be the third person that answered this question, like with you just hit, sorry.
[00:08:24] Jeremy Au:
But anyway, you know. Okay. Well, that's exactly what happened. Okay. Moderate just says I need to jump in as well. I mean, I think I do both audio and video now. And so one of the feedback that I got from producer was to keep my mic on actually, so I used to mute myself when they were speaking, and then obviously I only switch it on when I had to come in or ask a question.
But I think what I've noticed is that if you. Having the mic open during the entire time and you are actually actively listening. There's a lot of noises that people make that are, you're like, oh yeah. Right. That's correct. A hundred percent. I agree with you. It is. So there's a lot of positive affirmation that actually is in a normal conversation.
We like around us, you can't see us 'cause the audio, but we're all nodding each other. We're laughing a little bit about these noises. So you keep your mic on is there, and then actually when you're like, they're going on for a long time and you stop those affirmations, you stop nodding, you stop. Like, you know, because like you said, you know, everybody knows it's going on for too long, et cetera.
Then the other person is not dumb, you know, they're hopefully a social animal just like you are. So they're gonna be like, oh, okay. You know, we need to like, So there's a little bit, I think it's less about what you do to cut in, but more about what you are you know, reinforcing and being positive about.
[00:09:39] Edric Poon:
Well, I've been caught like trying to hold back a yawn before, so yeah, I think that was a good cue.
[00:09:46] Jeremy Au:
Wait, are you getting audio only or?,
[00:09:49] Edric Poon:
No. Video. It is one of those that you go like this and then your eyes start watering up, but your mouth just kind of quivers at the same time.
Like, I mean, it was bad manners for me, but it was like an 11:00 PM thing and 11:00 PM Okay. Yeah. Yeah. Okay. So here's the thing, right? When I started my first video podcast, I had no idea how lighting was done properly, right? Right. So lights were in your face. I looked like a ghost. Absolutely. Right. You know, like a ghost had seen his dead grandmother kind of ghost, right?
It's kind even scarier. So, you know, your eyes are like doing this and you get very tired after an hour, right? Yeah. That's when I knew, okay, maybe I shouldn't do so much long form. Oh yeah.
[00:10:25] Prahlad Jaya:
So what's the average form size now? Sorry? Average length of your yo, dude.
[00:10:28] Edric Poon:
Either way. Whatever you said right now it's, I get a little sensitive with that question.
What's that size, what's that like? Tough for me to answer that question completely unintended. Yeah, I said the exact same thing. Okay. Yeah. But truth be told it really depends. I think some people, oh, I've done two and a half hours before, three hours before. I've also done 30 minutes, I think comfortably for you to get good content is anywhere between 45 to an hour, but you can edit down to about 30 with when you do get the salient points out.
But again, I'm not a big fan of TikTok style videos whereby, you know, you chop it up into that. Short bit with very little context and no detail, if not, why you're doing
[00:11:09] Jeremy Au: podcasting. Right? Oh, well I just did my first three minute recording.
[00:11:14] Edric Poon:
Three-minute recording. Okay. Yeah, it was pretty short. Yeah.
Try and do shorts. It's, I'll be honest with you, it's just a completely different thing, right? You keep shorts.
[00:11:21] Jeremy Au:
I mean, I mean, I think there's one aspect which is you have a long episode, like is it 40 minutes? You edit down to like 30, and then you can cut it up into different shots for videogram from each one.
So I think that's one approach. But yeah, I think just today I was just like being a super nerd. And so I was like, recently I was like, huh. It was like founder, like what's the meaning behind the word founder? Right. And then I did a research and I was like, oh, it's not about finding something new. It's about, it comes from a Latin word, which means funder, which means foundation.
And then also, I dunno if you know, but when you say a ship is foundering, it means a ship is sinking. Right? So it's a. There's a dwell meaning of founders like either to be, to build something or to sink or to be sinking. And I was like, wow, this is an incredible, I don't know, I mean, this is not a full 45 minute, three hour episode about the word founder, right?
So I was like, you know what? I just gotta be a super nerd about this for three minutes. I'll just be like, yeah, you know, if you're founder's kind of interesting, right? Because it's about building a foundation, but also the risk of failure and thinking, right? And I don't know, I was like, oh, who knew that?
You know, the word, you know, definition can encapsulate experience and a paradox of being an entrepreneur. And that was like a three minutes thing. I mean, I don't think I could have made it like, I don't know, a 45 minute sermon. Like a three hour, yeah. Riggs thing. But for three minutes, I was like, yeah, this is a nice bite-sized Oreo.
[00:12:40] Edric Poon: Right. It's true. I mean, all of us are founders here, right?
[00:12:42] Prahlad Jaya:
Yeah. Kind. Yeah, we are. We are, right. I'm not full-time, but Oh, you're gonna be, yeah, I guess, yeah.
[00:12:46] Edric Poon:
You're definitely,
[00:12:48] Jeremy Au:
You're like a part-time founder. There you go.
[00:12:51] Edric Poon: Part-time father.
[00:12:51] Prahlad Jaya: Oh, did you ask father or founder? Founder or founder, yeah. Yeah.Part-time. Yeah. But you know,
[00:12:57] Edric Poon:
A part-time father. Well, okay. That's cool too. You know. No judgment here. Okay. You see your kids like twice a week for four hours a day. I get it. You know, get paid 16 hours. 16 bucks an hour to be a dad.
[00:13:09] Jeremy Au:
I get it. No, it's just easy for 30 minutes. It's long form. Long-form. Fatherhood is 30 minutes.
[00:13:16] Jeremy Au:
Yeah. So who's got kids here? [00:13:19]
Prahlad Jaya: Me, two
kids. One. No, zero. Yeah.
[00:13:22] Edric Poon:
Allegedly. Allegedly. Allegedly. Allegedly. So obviously we're dividing the room here.
[00:13:28] Jeremy Au:
Obviously the fight is on one side. On the other side, yeah. Correct. Oh yeah. You are married? Yeah. Yeah.
[00:13:37] Edric Poon: And but no kids, right? Wife number one. One. Okay. Right. Good answer. It's like a speed test.
[00:13:42] Jeremy Au:
Good answer. If he thinks you've more than five seconds of a spot, you're in trouble. It's like something's wrong.
[00:13:49] Edric Poon:
You know what's scary? It's the way he answered. One.
[00:13:52] Jeremy Au:
Like, did you not know there's a question back to you. I'm on his, I did not.
[00:14:00] Edric Poon:
I think you little bit to him, but I think it's a very random question to have already.
[00:14:01] Prahlad Jaya:
Remember that's the way he deals with belaboring. The point he asked slowly. That's what really,
[00:14:07] Edric Poon:
Really? Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. One. Okay. So one. All right. Cool. So what's the biggest challenge that you are facing? Podcasting at home? With a spouse, if you ever have, I mean, with your spouse around or your partner, whatever. I never podcast at home. I carry all my equipment to the place wherever I go.
[00:14:28] Jeremy Au: Yes, place where wherever I, I meet the founders.
[00:14:32] Jeremy Au: Yeah.
Okay, cool. And then sometimes it's just a meeting room. Sometimes it's the studio, sometimes it's like random place. Yeah. Okay. And then just set up and record.
[00:14:41] Edric Poon: All right.
Then do you, well, eventually you're gonna get some new gear. Really excited about that. I totally geek out about gear. So what do you use, What you mentioned your
[00:14:52] Edric Poon:
Behringer plus the E 80 20 20. Yeah. And then plug into computer and. What's the software? Audacity?
[00:15:01] Edric Poon: That one. Okay. Jaya.
[00:15:03] Prahlad Jaya:
Your question is tools like, yeah.
[00:15:05] Jeremy Au:
Okay. Oh, no, I think I was mention saying like, what problems problem Your non existent
[00:15:09] Edric Poon: spouse. Oh yeah. Non spouse.
[00:15:11] Prahlad Jaya:
Na, not applicable.
[00:15:13] Jeremy Au:
It is like, if you are single, also, please reach out to me and let's create a problem. Yeah.
[00:15:20] Edric Poon:
What, what is the problem with a non-existent spouse?
[00:15:24] Jeremy Au:
That's another one. The absence of one, I guess.
I guess if you don't have one is a problem. If you have one, it's a problem. Ha. There you go. But boom. Okay. Send that to my wife. Really at me?
[00:15:35] Edric Poon: What gear are you using?
[00:15:36] Jeremy Au:
Now? Yeah, road Caster Pro, Rode Pro Caster. What? Little Alto Mic. What else? Descript.
[00:15:48] Prahlad Jaya:
All this is at your end only though.Yeah.
[00:15:52] Jeremy Au:
I mean, guess is actually, I think I've noticed, I found that the new generation, MacBook Pros or MacBooks mIC is really solid. And then if they use the AirPods to avoid that feedback loop. So, you know, the audio is coming from the sound that they are hearing is going into the airports, but their mic is actually from the laptop.
It's pretty good as long as they avoid like tapping the table or scratching, you know, like moving some papers around. So it's actually pretty good. But otherwise, yeah, I think there's a lot of folks actually it reminds me of like horror stories. What's the worst horror story you ever had in podcast Land?
Okay, I'll start this. This person was like, okay, I'm happy. We were great. We're gonna record in a podcast studio. And I was like, wow, your company is a com podcast studio is amazing. So, you know, great. And then we fired up, blah, blah, blah. I'm like, at some point I'm just like, what is that giant worrying noise in the background?
And they're like, oh those are the servers. And I'm like, wait, aren't you in a podcast studio? It's like, yeah, the podcast studio is inside the server room.
And I was like, and then she was like, yeah, we've recorded a few podcasts here and seemed to be fine, recorded over Zoom or whatever. And I was just like, okay. I was like, and then I was like, well, the server shouldn't be on. And because anyway, and then she was like, well, I could always switch off the servers.
And I was like no. If you have a server room, I assume the servers are doing something. So switching them off is probably not the best move. What is? So let's reschedule and let's do like a weekend call with you at home. So anyway, that was the, anyway pro tip, don't locate your podcast studio inside your server room.
[00:17:42] Edric Poon:
Thank you for sharing. Definitely a pro tip. Yeah. It's that all the audio engineers is that freak the fuck out. I'm just like, guys, this is so loud. It's like this giant word noise in the background anyway. And when you hear an engineer going, I don't hear anything. Okay. You know you got a really good engineer with you.
Yeah. Especially a sound engineer. Right? Oh, he see, he sees the waveforms. He doesn't hear them. So horror stories. Horror stories.
[00:17:56] Prahlad Jaya:
Well, there go the biggest horror stories. I haven't done a podcast in a while. Like it's, yeah. That's, that is haunting me.
[00:18:02] Edric Poon:
I think that is the horror story. That's the horror story. That's it. Well, I'm glad that you're here so that you can use this one. This is good. Like
[00:18:07] Prahlad Jaya: This gets me pumped up. Yeah.
[00:18:08] Jeremy Au:
This is nice. Yeah. Yeah. By the media podcast. Yeah.
[00:18:14] Prahlad Jaya:
We'll do it. We'll do it. I haven't resumed, man. It's not specific to you. It's we just, yeah. So my biggest challenge, I've shared this with Jeremy before is I think I've just been overthinking the role of like editing 'cause most of my viewers are still YouTube, not Spotify. And Spotify is only audio. And so I spent a lot of time editing. So if it's a two hour interview an episode I take 10 to 15 hours to edit it, which is ridiculous, right? It's an entire weekend for me. And so it's just that perfectionist, you know, that mentality is bogging me down. So I just, I think I just have to, I just have to churn out content. Yep. And yeah.
[00:18:46] Jeremy Au:
Yeah. I'll just invite myself over. I'm a perfect speaker. Yeah. Zero edits. I've worked my ass off to like sandpaper off the ums, ahs every filler thing. Oh no. Not even that.
[00:18:55] Prahlad Jaya:
Like what I mean is like adding adding B-roll, adding that sort of stuff, right? Oh, B-roll. Yeah, I add a, I add a off.
[00:19:00] Jeremy Au:
Why do you wanna cut away from this beautiful face? You know, what do you wanna add
[00:19:04] Prahlad Jaya:
Bureau? No. Like for example, you, I dunno, you talk about a startup, I would record, I would screen record a website, you know, off that startup. I would slot that in. You know, I would, I. That's a lot of work.
[00:19:12] Prahlad Jaya: That's a lot of work. Precisely right. So, you know what I mean? Like it's so that's been my biggest thing. But I've so I was just telling them my last day at my day job at this startup is Monday. And between jobs, I'm gonna have quite some time and I wanna get back in the ring for podcasting.
[00:19:12] Jeremy Au:
Okay, so Tuesday I'm coming over, burn myself over.
I'm the total opposite of you actually. Yeah. I don't edit at all. Yeah. Wow. I tell them this is a one take. We are taking it from start to end, whether there's mistakes, there's ums, there's, but there's or whatever it's gonna be there. So it's like prep itself.
I'm gonna give you only three structured questions we're gonna build from there.
[00:19:47] Jeremy Au: How long is your full episode anyway?
It's actually quite short, like 30 to 45.
[00:19:52] Jeremy Au: 30 or 45. Wow. Yeah. I think 30 is doable. Yeah. I didn't, if you do a one take no edit study. 'cause everybody has about 30 minutes of conversation down.
That's start as I trail off was like, yeah. What's my kid's name again? I forgot, you know.
[00:20:04] Prahlad Jaya: Sorry, can I'm just gonna come back. Horror story. I actually thought of one. This was my first episode with Pranic. Oh. And I, this was my first time, right. I had like all the steps written down last May, June, and basically it was a Zoom thing.
It, I forgot to go into gallery view and recording. So what happened is, at the end, the exported footage was, if I'm talking, it was only me, and if it was him talking, it was only him. Oh. That's all I had to work with. And it's if Jeremy starts talking now, it takes one, two seconds for the video to flip.
And so I was dealing with that like, and so that was actually quite a horror story. So
[00:20:38] Jeremy Au: yeah. A lot B roll, I guess for that one. Exactly.
[00:20:42] Prahlad Jaya: Oh, no. Yeah. That wasn't, I just forgot to turn on gallery view and that's it. Oh, that was a horror.
[00:20:50] Edric Poon: Horror, horror. Horror. Yeah, definitely a horror. Definitely a horror on my end. Again, we I think during the covid time, everything was all remote, so we tried out different things, right? Like zoom, Google meets teams everything. And then, so on my end I thought, oh maybe I'll try something else. I'll use O B Ss, right? And then something that I forgot to tell myself was that my computer was about 10 years old.
[00:21:19] Jeremy Au:
There you go.
[00:21:20] Edric Poon:
Oh. So it came to a point whereby the guest was like Rik, I think I lost you. Like, what? What do you mean you lost me? You are frozen. Oh. I was like, okay, you just went, my whole laptop crashed. Oh. Oh, no. Right. Overheated. Yeah. So the problem, so that's the thing. When it overheats, You can't just restart it.
No. Yeah. So it's like, oh my God. So, okay. Wait five minutes. We'll come back. I'll try and stitch it together. Five minutes later we start o b s. Bam. O b s crashes again. Yeah, dead. Go into zoom, freeze us again. Do it one more time, please. Good Lord, please. Whichever God is listening to me right now. Help me.
Right? Help me. Yeah. And then after that, then my mic failed.
[00:22:11] Jeremy Au:
So you're saying God was like, you know what? Let's just add more of it. This is the Book of Job. Like every single thing happened. No, it's not the book of job.
[00:22:18] Edric Poon:
It's the book of joke. It was he, whoever it was by committee, they were laughing like, happy Gilmore over there.
It is just fantastic, but okay, fine. All right. I'll be the but of the joke today of you. This cosmic big cosmic joke, but it's okay. We'll learn from that eventually. It was a good lesson to learn. Get slightly better equipment. Save a little money. Get something that's relatively decent. Yeah. Don't be miserly on these things, thinking that it's gonna push you through. Yeah, it was. It was on his last legs already last. Seriously? Yeah. Yeah.
[00:22:52] Jeremy Au:
I was flogging a dead horse. Yeah. I had a similar issue just a few months ago because, you know, I had a Dell anywhere anyway, started crashing all the time. Why? Yours also, Ana. Alienware. Yeah. Yeah. Why not? I mean, it's a one-time purchase, right? So you just buy once and then this stuff is gonna be around for the next 10, 20 years. I'm not gonna change mic. So a lot of people are like, oh, do I spend $200 more on mic? I'm like, yo. Like, you know, if you think about it, it's like this device is gonna be around for 20 years, right? I mean, you know, so just buy one that you really like.
And then move on with life. Right. You know, otherwise, you know, people are like, oh, I'm gonna buy this, and, oh wait, da duh.
[00:23:28] Edric Poon:
But don't you ever have the itch? It's like, wow. I like that mic too. You know? Or you don't have it?
[00:23:32] Jeremy Au:
No, I just buy. I bought, I mean, it's good enough. It was like, it's premium, but it's not like super premium, ultra premium, but it's good enough. Then it's just done. Right? And I'm just like, move on with life.
[00:23:40] Edric Poon:
I want a mic collection, so I'm,
[00:23:42] Jeremy Au:
You want, okay, you are different. For me is for me, I was just like, I'm an addict man. Serious. You're addict. No,
[00:23:49] Edric Poon:
I want more microphones. I want 'em all.
[00:23:51] Prahlad Jaya:
What is the total value of all your equipment you use for podcasting?
[00:23:55] Jeremy Au: I think a thousand dollars. That's it. Yeah. That's, I'm excluding the laptop. Right? I would say
[00:24:00] Edric Poon: costs a thousand. That's said a bit. Don't tell me you bought like some Chong China one, which is like no.
[00:24:07] Jeremy Au:
Cannot be right. Yeah. I'm remember misremembering this, maybe it was like $2,000 then because maybe.
[00:24:13] Edric Poon:
Are you sure it's the road caster or the road caster? Which one did you get?
[00:24:16] Jeremy Au:
Dude, I wanna complain so much about a road naming system. Who the heck calls one device? The Rode Pro Caster. Oh, and then who calls the other thing The Rode Caster Pro. Like, like I can't even, you ask me right now, which one is the mic? Which one's the console? Actually can't tell you the difference.So I don't know. Just like, I don't know, calling a kid like John Michael and Michael John, right. Like it just gonna mess it up. Like that's a terrible naming system. Anyway.
[00:24:45] Edric Poon:
So, so is yours the broadcaster pro or the pro caster?
[00:24:47] Jeremy Au:
I have both. One of them does micro, one of them is the console, right? And Gen one. Yeah. So, okay. Oh, Gen one. The gen one. There's a smaller one. There's a, I don't know, number two version of that.
[00:24:56] Edric Poon:
There's the smaller one. Yeah, the new one, which is I would say comparable to this. So at least this is in the market right now to compete. Yeah. With the road cast Pro, pro two. Yeah. Yeah.
[00:25:04] Jeremy Au:
But you know, I was just like, I mean, I like you, I was actually looking at it.
I was like, oh I thought I bought one and I'm gonna use it for a long time. And it's like itchy. It's like, oh, but smaller it is, blah, blah. And then at some point, as I said, you know what, if I procrastinate long enough, which is my, the way to deal with all urges, you know, then eventually the fe the feeling fades, right?
Because this is a hormonal envy slash acquisition feeling, right? So you just wait, you know, months and after a while you're like, okay, you know what? It's fine. There's no big difference anyway.
[00:25:32] Edric Poon:
You've lived with it. You don't need it.
[00:25:33] Jeremy Au:
I don't need it. Right? I mean, it's just, I mean, as a gearhead you always wanna buy more gear, right? But truth is, Once you hit a level performance, you know, also, let's be real, right? You do a podcast, you have all this fancy ass mind, all this other stuff, and then you're compressing this. You're gonna edit this, and then you can compress this down to 1 28 kilobytes per second mono. What? What are you like?
Like, I mean the, and then the premium that we have is like 2 56 kilobytes per second. I'm just saying like, that's your, anyway, I'm just saying like, what is the point anyway?
[00:26:06] Edric Poon:
They're taking some photos of us. This is the first time I actually feel a little well, I don't know. Is it nice to actually be photographed by somebody that you don't really know? Excuse me. There's a heavily tattooed man coming to take photos of me.
[00:26:20] Jeremy Au:
Wait, this is a customer, a teammate.
[00:26:23] Edric Poon: No,no. We're good. Cool, man. Thanks. Thanks so much. He is actually with the marketing team, so he is gonna be using this as a teammate with or without our consent. Onto the Facebook page, I guess.
[00:26:32] Jeremy Au: Okay, so you erase this podcast to meet up during lunch and there's no food. So we're gonna have lunch afterwards, man, afterwards.
[00:26:37] Edric Poon:
Yeah. That What time does this? No, because they don't do food here, so that's the thing, but okay.
[00:26:41] Jeremy Au:
There's no food inside here. Yeah. I thought we were gonna do like a mo bang and ASMR. It is like, okay, share this. Four random strangers who are just gonna like eat.
[00:26:55] Edric Poon:
It's like it's clearly the ASMR you're looking for, right? Well, if that's the case, right, then let's go have some lunch.
[00:27:00] Prahlad Jaya:
I, I'd like one more selfie.
[00:27:00] Edric Poon:
Oh God. Here we go. More selfie. I don't know. You got back Bite man.
[00:27:06] Prahlad Jaya:
Yeah. Oh, okay. So I'm que Alright, squeeze everyone in. All right. Okay.
[00:27:13] Edric Poon:
So we're gonna wrap this up, I guess. Wait we were on that last question. So people are spending a bit of time and money right on, on their gear. So how much money did you spend on your gear so far at that point in time? I bought it on Amazon. And so it was on offer, so I think I saved maybe about 800 or cheaper everything.
[00:27:33] Edric Poon:
800,000? Yeah.
[00:27:35] Prahlad Jaya:
The official last photo.
[00:27:37] Edric Poon:
Oh, one more photo. Yeah, sure. All right. All right, man. Yeah. Thank you so much. Thank you. You Thank you very much. Everybody. Okay. Whoever's listening, I, maybe I should distribute this to the Podcasters Playground, WhatsApp chat. That's fine. Do well. Yeah. Might as well. Did we say anything like overly sensitive or We don't care about that. That's fine.
[00:27:54] Prahlad Jaya:
Can't think of anything said. It's probably cut the spouse,
[00:27:57] Edric Poon: Not only he'll do. Is it the fact that you're single or the fact that what
[00:28:01] Edric Poon:
Part-time Father, Parttime father.
[00:28:04] Jeremy Au:
That's, sorry. Okay. Keep that in.
[00:28:06] Prahlad Jaya: All right. I'm a fractional father. Fractional. I'm a fractional CTOs fractional, you know
[00:28:10] Jeremy Au:
CFOs fractional. Chief officers?
[00:28:12] Edric Poon:
Yeah. Oh my God. Okay. Well, anyway, so, you guys okay if I send this to the rest of the Yeah, sure. C Let's do it. Push out life. There we go. All right. Then we'll just push it out and, okay. For those who are listening, thank you so much. I'm Edric.
[00:28:25] Prahlad Jaya:
Yeah. From Kurate. Yeah.
[00:28:28] Jeremy Au:
Jeremy Au at Brave Southeast Asia Tech podcast
[00:28:29] Emil Dumont:
And Emil.
[00:28:32] Edric Poon:
All right. So, with that, we are out. See you next time. Ciao. Ciao.
[00:28:36] Prahlad Jaya:
Amazing man.